The Effective Executive – Old to New Management Thinking


Veteran, new and aspiring executives need methods to be successful in their organization. There are 1000s of leadership podcasts, videos, blogs, and articles but few authors address what to do or how to do it.

We have witnessed many executives who are efficient (doing things right), but few executives are effective (doing the right things). We believe this is misguided and aim to remedy the shortfall with executives.

This is the 18th episode of the Effective Executive podcast. In this episode, Tripp Babbitt introduces a new series on YouTube taking you from old to new management thinking. Download our Effective Executive Starter Kit.
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Show Notes

Old and New Management Thinking

Efficient vs. Effective and Analytical vs. Synthetic

Taylor vs Deming

Taylor, Deming and The 95 Method


[00:00:01] Hi, I’m Tripp Babbitt, and I am putting this video together and I’m going to be releasing it on my effective executive podcast, also be releasing it on the effective executive. YouTube channel and also I’ll be posting this video in there on LinkedIn. So what is this? Well, I’m going to be taking you through kind of old theory of management to kind of present day theory of management. And in building this playlist that’s going to be posted on YouTube, even though we’ll be talking about it on the other three channels that I mentioned, it’s going to be taking you from very old theory from Frederick Taylor and his principles of scientific management to newer management theory, which is W. Edwards Deming to the newest, which is my methods for implementing the best of management theory and how you can use the method to continue to learn and update in your own organization. Now, the sad part here, from my perspective, is most universities are still teaching Frederick Taylor and Frederick Taylor built or wrote the principles of scientific management back in 1911. Very few universities teach anything about them. But this is your advantage not only for your career, but also for your organization. And being able to utilize the benefits of the Demming philosophy and pursuing that with the methods that I’ve built in the ninety five method will help facilitate that advantage. All right, so how does it fit into becoming an effective executive? Well, the first thing I want to retroactively tell you is if this first time you’re watching any of my videos, please go to where I go through an explanation of the difference between being inefficient versus being an effective executive.


[00:02:38] Then there’s a second video, and these are just probably between five and 10 minutes long, Analytical versus a synthetic thinker, and once you get the understanding from those two videos and the Analytical versus synthetic thinker is at And these are YouTube videos you’ll get a sense of of what this is all about and why it’s so important to understand the differences now in my training, I don’t really go into a lot of this. I may add elements of this as I record these videos into my executive training, but this is almost maybe a little bit deeper and maybe something you don’t necessarily need to know. But but I think it it helps in understanding and that is that tailor primarily Frederick Taylor. And I’m not knocking Taylor. He brought his book and 1811. It’s been one hundred and nine years that we’ve been able to advance since then, just like we have technology today. He didn’t have any of that stuff. So hopefully our management philosophies of advanced with it. But Taylor focused on being efficient. And once you listen to the other two videos I just mentioned, hopefully this will become clear as to being efficient isn’t the same as being effective.


[00:04:14] Now, Deming took us a little bit further and he basically said that we need to become put in elements that help us become effective.


[00:04:26] Now, based off of some of the interviews I did with people that worked with Dr. Deming and going to his four day seminars and so forth, I took the cue from Ed Baker, who had worked with Dr. Deming, who said, you know, he Dr. Deming was begging Ed Baker to write a book, which he didn’t do until much later in his life, to give him his view on what he what he saw with regards to Dr. Deming’s philosophy called the system of profound knowledge. I’ve taken that cue also and built these methods to help you become a more effective executive using the ninety five method, and there’s a lot of things that Taylor didn’t Frederick Taylor didn’t have at his hands back when he was putting his principles of scientific management together. And one of those was general systems theory. And this obviously gets into the second video I mentioned of Analytica versus synthetic thinking. General systems theory in the papers associated with it really started coming about in 1949. OK, so what am I going to be covering in this YouTube playlist, because I’m not going to really put it in the podcast and I probably won’t post it on LinkedIn unless there’s something that that seems to fit, but.


[00:05:55] There what I’m going to be covering is, first of all, Taylor’s principles of scientific management from 1911 and I’m going to cover key points as I see them. So I just finished the book again. I’ve read it several times. And the key points as I see them are this concept of inefficiency, the view of the worker. There’s a lot of stuff in there about his view of very negative about workers. I’m going to get into economies of scale, lots of ways to do something in the Frederick Taylor world. But one best way and how that different how that differs from the thinking of W. Edwards Deming.


[00:06:41] And then there’s obviously the the focus on productivity that was prevalent in his making things more efficient. And also the way he viewed data and the functional separation of work and there’ll be some other things in there, but in essence, high level, that’s what’s going to be in there. And then as I go through these, I’m trying to get these videos around five minutes or so is Deming’s take from 19, basically 50 to 1993 on his view of these things. Now, this came from a book I’m a big proponent of the book I’ve talked about a number of times on Demming Institue podcast, which is Deming’s profound changes. I’ve read it a couple of times and it gets into a lot of these things. But for the most part, these will be my my views on it. And when I pull from Deming’s profound changes, I’ll let you know. So it’ll be Deming’s take versus the way Taylor saw things, why it’s such a big difference between how Dr W. Edwards Deming saw the world versus how Taylor saw the world. And then I’m going to be adding in why the 95 method can help facilitate moving your management thinking and improving it so that you can become effective. A philosophy like what Dr.


[00:08:10] Deming talks about is hard to implement. That’s one of the biggest problems with the Deming philosophy, is there’s multiple good things associated with it, but there’s not really a how to mine is not perfect. You know, I’ve done this for 30 years. And I one thing I’ve learned as I have to learn and but what it will do is the methods that I put together will help you learn. It will give you a starting point from the things that I’ve seen and learned. And I’ll give you a much better idea how your organization is put together. But this is all the methods that are involved, the things with regards to synthetic thinking and innovation and decision making and organizational design and data. All of those things are covered with the 95 method to kind of give you a method to go through and make this switch from what you’re being taught in universities that is based and mostly what happened in 1911 with Taylor’s principles to what Demming Dr. Deming saw and the differences between them, and that a method to help facilitate that forward. So please subscribe to the YouTube channel, the effective executive, and hit the bell and you’ll be notified as these videos are released in YouTube.


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